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HANSARDDiego Garcia Military Base and British Indian Ocean Territory BillWill the noble Lord give way?18 Nov 2025HANSARDDiego Garcia Military Base and British Indian Ocean Territory BillI do not want to get ahead of myself, because Amendment 80 is a long way away. My appeal to the Minister—I would say exactly the same to the Mauritian Government if they were…18 Nov 2025HANSARDDiego Garcia Military Base and British Indian Ocean Territory BillI am intervening on the noble Baroness. It is her speech.18 Nov 2025HANSARDDiego Garcia Military Base and British Indian Ocean Territory BillI see. Presumably he is arguing that it would be joint sovereignty. How would you enter into negotiations with another sovereign state on the exercise of sovereignty if we were…18 Nov 2025HANSARDDiego Garcia Military Base and British Indian Ocean Territory BillPart of the noble Lord’s lack of involvement was in not raising his objections in Parliament at the time. If those negotiations were entered into to resolve the legal…18 Nov 2025HANSARDDiego Garcia Military Base and British Indian Ocean Territory BillI am happy to clarify. There will be a second, consequential amendment. As I mentioned in my remarks, there is a principal amendment and there will be a consequential amendment. I…18 Nov 2025HANSARDDiego Garcia Military Base and British Indian Ocean Territory BillIt has been ratified; Parliament has ratified the treaty. It has not been brought into effect, but the treaty, which states that Mauritius is sovereign, has been ratified by…18 Nov 2025HANSARDDiego Garcia Military Base and British Indian Ocean Territory BillI first apologise to the noble Lord, Lord Callanan, for intervening when he was moving his amendment. I am flattered by being so courted by the noble Lords, Lord Callanan and Lord…18 Nov 2025HANSARDDiego Garcia Military Base and British Indian Ocean Territory BillI am grateful to the noble Lord for giving way; I have listened carefully to what he has said, as I always do. Does he agree that there is a distinction, however, between debating…18 Nov 2025HANSARDDiego Garcia Military Base and British Indian Ocean Territory BillMy Lords, I have amendments to this Bill—I think they are in the last group—but I will not address them. I will keep to the amendments in this group, which has strayed into some…18 Nov 2025HANSARDDiego Garcia Military Base and British Indian Ocean Territory BillI understand that argument, which the noble Lord alluded to at Second Reading, but it is a curious one when a treaty has been agreed. If he had presented this argument under the…18 Nov 2025HANSARDDiego Garcia Military Base and British Indian Ocean Territory BillPerhaps I might say to the noble Baroness that communication with regard to the degrouping was not equally applied to all, so I have sympathy with her. Perhaps if we continue with…18 Nov 2025HANSARDDiego Garcia Military Base and British Indian Ocean Territory BillThe noble Lord is just factually wrong. The treaty has been ratified—it is now a treaty. His amendment is seeking to alter the treaty. Article 1 of the treaty, which Parliament…18 Nov 2025HANSARDDiego Garcia Military Base and British Indian Ocean Territory BillI am grateful to the noble Lord for giving way. Given that the Bill is to give effect to the treaty, I wonder whether the noble Lord could say a little more, because in…18 Nov 2025HANSARDDiego Garcia Military Base and British Indian Ocean Territory BillI do not think that is quite acceptable. Amendment 9 was voted on, and it included everything that the noble Lord asked of me. Why did the Conservatives not support it?18 Nov 2025HANSARDDiego Garcia Military Base and British Indian Ocean Territory BillI am grateful to the noble Lord for giving way. He absolutely put his amendment down. At first, I thought I would do him the courtesy of listening to how effective he was going to…18 Nov 2025HANSARDDiego Garcia Military Base and British Indian Ocean Territory BillI am grateful to the noble Baroness. I make the assumption that, in her defence, she did not read my amendment before making her statement, because the right to self-determination…18 Nov 2025HANSARDDiego Garcia Military Base and British Indian Ocean Territory BillThe noble Lord will recall that I had said that it is not in force. I said Parliament had ratified it. I am not sure whether the noble Lord can intervene on an intervention, but I…18 Nov 2025HANSARDDiego Garcia Military Base and British Indian Ocean Territory BillMy Lords, degrouping after groups have been published goes against what is clearly in the Companion . It is to be discouraged, as a consequence of the Procedure Committee clearly…18 Nov 2025HANSARDDiego Garcia Military Base and British Indian Ocean Territory BillMy Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the noble Baroness. She speaks with great sincerity and consistency in making her arguments, and I share many of her thoughts. I said on the…18 Nov 2025