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HANSARDImmigration and Social Security Co-ordination (EU Withdrawal) Bill (Second sitting)Q Does that not illustrate exactly what I am saying about personal experience? Sometimes concern about migration is lowest in places where there are significant levels of…09 Jun 2020HANSARDImmigration and Social Security Co-ordination (EU Withdrawal) Bill (Second sitting)Q Any thoughts on that, Mr Goodhart? David Goodhart: I see what you are getting at. I think that there is some truth in the argument that when it is on the front pages of the…09 Jun 2020HANSARDImmigration and Social Security Co-ordination (EU Withdrawal) Bill (Second sitting)Q Really? At any time? David Goodhart: Yes, really. Almost every time somebody talks about immigration and restricting it, they also say in parentheses how marvellous immigration…09 Jun 2020HANSARDImmigration and Social Security Co-ordination (EU Withdrawal) Bill (Second sitting)Q But we are talking about a decade of “Go home” vans, the Windrush scandal— David Goodhart: “Go home” vans lasted about five seconds—09 Jun 2020HANSARDImmigration and Social Security Co-ordination (EU Withdrawal) Bill (Second sitting)Q Posters during the Brexit referendum, with refugees— David Goodhart —and that was against illegal immigration. You are not in favour of illegal immigration, are you? You are in…09 Jun 2020HANSARDImmigration and Social Security Co-ordination (EU Withdrawal) Bill (Second sitting)Q But what was the point of it? What was the point of that poster, if it was not xenophobic? It had nothing to do with the free movement of people. What was the point of putting…09 Jun 2020HANSARDImmigration and Social Security Co-ordination (EU Withdrawal) Bill (Second sitting)Q You are talking about the “Go home” vans now. I was talking about the posters that were put up by certain political parties during the referendum. David Goodhart: Oh, the Nigel…09 Jun 2020HANSARDImmigration and Social Security Co-ordination (EU Withdrawal) Bill (Second sitting)Q I agree with you as regards employers, but we will come to that debate a little later. Jill Rutter, may we come back to you? Is there not also an issue about the fact that,…09 Jun 2020HANSARDImmigration and Social Security Co-ordination (EU Withdrawal) Bill (Second sitting)Q Mr Goodhart, should we all be doing more to have a strategy for integration, for citizenship? David Goodhart: Yes. That is something I have been interested in for a very long…09 Jun 2020HANSARDImmigration and Social Security Co-ordination (EU Withdrawal) Bill (Second sitting)Q Okay. You spoke about the Henry VIII powers in relation to social security. You have touched on them a little bit in terms of immigration. Is this just par for the course—a…09 Jun 2020HANSARDImmigration and Social Security Co-ordination (EU Withdrawal) Bill (Second sitting)Q Mr Berry, we have just heard some discussion about the possibility of citizens eligible for the settled status scheme not applying for it. For what reasons will people miss the…09 Jun 2020HANSARDImmigration and Social Security Co-ordination (EU Withdrawal) Bill (Second sitting)Q How would a benevolent regime work? Do you have any ideas about how that could be done or how best it could be done? Adrian Berry: Yes. You apply late; they grant it. It is that…09 Jun 2020HANSARDImmigration and Social Security Co-ordination (EU Withdrawal) Bill (Second sitting)Q As we heard earlier, immigration rules have been revised thousands of times in the last 10 years. The defence of how we do it appears to be that it allows the Government to…09 Jun 2020HANSARDImmigration and Social Security Co-ordination (EU Withdrawal) Bill (Second sitting)Q I will just pick up on what you said a little earlier about mobility routes in some of the free trade negotiations that are going on. Can you just expand a little on what you…09 Jun 2020HANSARDImmigration and Social Security Co-ordination (EU Withdrawal) Bill (Second sitting)Q Mr Piper, we have heard from the Home Office on the number of applications. We, like you, congratulate the Home Office on achieving significant reach. The problem, of course, is…09 Jun 2020HANSARDImmigration and Social Security Co-ordination (EU Withdrawal) Bill (Second sitting)Exactly. Luke Piper: Much as with the number of people due to apply for the scheme, we do not know. We have no idea of the exact number of EU citizens who need to apply under the…09 Jun 2020HANSARDImmigration and Social Security Co-ordination (EU Withdrawal) Bill (Second sitting)Q Coming back to the scale of the problem, looking at international, or even UK, examples of where Governments have tried to encourage citizens to sign up for a scheme, how close…09 Jun 2020HANSARDImmigration and Social Security Co-ordination (EU Withdrawal) Bill (Second sitting)Q That is a huge problem, in terms of scale and the nature of the rights that those people would lose. One proposal that has been rejected in previous debates is a declaratory…09 Jun 2020HANSARDImmigration and Social Security Co-ordination (EU Withdrawal) Bill (Second sitting)Q So your first choice to resolve these issues is a declaratory system. In response to that, the Government tend to argue—if I understand them correctly—that making the system…09 Jun 2020HANSARDImmigration and Social Security Co-ordination (EU Withdrawal) Bill (Second sitting)Q Finally, do you have any concerns about the number of people who appear to be getting pre-settled status, as opposed to settled status, and the implications that that has for…09 Jun 2020