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HANSARDWild Animals in Circuses (No. 2) Bill (Second sitting)Q Is there any particular kind of wild animal that you would say should not be in a circus? Martin Lacey: I think the answer to that was kind of said before. I am not the person…21 May 2019HANSARDWild Animals in Circuses (No. 2) Bill (Second sitting)Q What about you, Mr Lacey, because you are using primates in the circus, are you not? Martin Lacey: Primates? Not at all.21 May 2019HANSARDWild Animals in Circuses (No. 2) Bill (Second sitting)Q When I was a child, you could go to a circus and you could see orangutans, gorillas—every conceivable kind of animal. Of course, that has changed over the years because people…21 May 2019HANSARDWild Animals in Circuses (No. 2) Bill (Second sitting)You have a financial interest in ensuring that as many different kinds of wild animals are available in circuses for your use. Rona Brown: First of all, I have no financial…21 May 2019HANSARDWild Animals in Circuses (No. 2) Bill (Second sitting)Q From your point of view, you have a clear financial interest in ensuring that as many wild animals and types of wild animals are in circuses. Rona Brown: I am really sorry, but…21 May 2019HANSARDWild Animals in Circuses (No. 2) Bill (Second sitting)Q And you get them mainly from circuses, or are they the ones you prefer? Rona Brown: Yes, most of the wild ones. They are a huge resource to the film industry. I was in charge of…21 May 2019HANSARDWild Animals in Circuses (No. 2) Bill (Second sitting)Right. You are just big cats. Martin Lacey: Big cats—correct.21 May 2019HANSARDWild Animals in Circuses (No. 2) Bill (Second sitting)Q Mrs Brown, I believe your livelihood is providing animals to the movie industry and television. Rona Brown: The film industry, yes.21 May 2019HANSARDWild Animals in Circuses (No. 2) Bill (Second sitting)Q Are there any animals that you would say should not perform? Carol MacManus: No.21 May 2019HANSARDWild Animals in Circuses (No. 2) Bill (Second sitting)Q So what is the difference between your camel and a horse? Peter Jolly: We treat it like one. We lead it the same and treat it the same. Carol MacManus: None of our animals shows…21 May 2019HANSARDWild Animals in Circuses (No. 2) Bill (Second sitting)It is unnatural to their way of life. Carol MacManus: No, it is not. Peter Jolly: My camels load themselves when it is time to go to the next place. We do not have to lead them…21 May 2019HANSARDWild Animals in Circuses (No. 2) Bill (Second sitting)Q Yes, but what about my point that an itinerant lifestyle for wild animals, which are the ones covered by the Bill, is wrong because it upsets them and disrupts them? Peter…21 May 2019HANSARDWild Animals in Circuses (No. 2) Bill (Second sitting)Q I am just trying to work out the definition that you are trying to give us. What do you mean by an exotic animal? Peter Jolly: It is usually one that is domesticated in other…21 May 2019HANSARDWild Animals in Circuses (No. 2) Bill (Second sitting)Q An exotic animal is just a wild animal. An exotic pet is a wild animal that is kept as a pet. Carol MacManus: Possibly, but I have a cockerel. He is the only animal on our…21 May 2019HANSARDWild Animals in Circuses (No. 2) Bill (Second sitting)Q May I turn to Carol for a minute? You keep talking about exotic animals. Carol MacManus: They are exotic.21 May 2019HANSARDWild Animals in Circuses (No. 2) Bill (Second sitting)Q What is the difference? Peter Jolly: My macaw was born in captivity. It was not wild-caught.21 May 2019HANSARDWild Animals in Circuses (No. 2) Bill (Second sitting)Q Carol, you mentioned exotic animals. An exotic pet is a wild animal that is being kept as a pet, is it not? So is an exotic animal not a wild animal? Carol MacManus: No, it is…21 May 2019HANSARDWild Animals in Circuses (No. 2) Bill (Second sitting)Q We were told earlier that some of the wild animals are disrupted and upset by a lot of travel. They are essentially wild, and although you may persuade them to perform by a form…21 May 2019HANSARDWild Animals in Circuses (No.2) Bill (First sitting)Q The RSPCA has defined a travelling circus as “any company/group…which…travels from place to place…giving performances, displays or exhibitions” with wild animals, and so on. If…21 May 2019HANSARDWild Animals in Circuses (No.2) Bill (First sitting)Q So dove acts would be acceptable. Finally, some falconry acts fly with a lure, and there are other birds such as owls in the display. If one of those acts was contracted by a…21 May 2019