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HANSARDHouse of Lords (Hereditary Peers) BillMy Lords, before speaking to Amendment 13, I should explain that I have tabled Amendment 13A on the supplementary list to put beyond doubt a point that may have been an unintended…09 Jul 2025HANSARDHouse of Lords (Hereditary Peers) Bill09 Jul 2025HANSARDHouse of Lords (Hereditary Peers) BillMy Lords, as explained, I have already spoken to this amendment. I beg to move.09 Jul 2025HANSARDHouse of Lords (Hereditary Peers) BillMy Lords, I am grateful to all those who spoke in this short debate. I have been struck above all by one thing: absolutely nobody who spoke has disagreed with the principle behind…09 Jul 2025HANSARDHouse of Lords (Hereditary Peers) BillThat was exactly my point, and the noble Baroness has reiterated it.09 Jul 2025HANSARDHouse of Lords (Hereditary Peers) BillThat was also incorrect; it need not necessarily do that at all. I must say that I was surprised when I heard the strictures from the Liberal Democrat Benches—“We cannot support…09 Jul 2025HANSARDHouse of Lords (Hereditary Peers) BillThe noble Lord absolutely makes my point for me. When an opportunity arises, let us put aside all the ardour of this and that, and whether or not we like hereditary Peers. We have…09 Jul 2025HANSARDHouse of Lords (Hereditary Peers) Bill09 Jul 2025HANSARDHouse of Lords (Hereditary Peers) BillMy Lords, in preface, I thank the noble Baroness the Leader of the House for her readiness on that amendment. We have reached a good point as a result of that discussion, and I…09 Jul 2025HANSARDHouse of Lords (Hereditary Peers) BillIt would. If such a rare case applied, a second, life peerage under the 1958 Act could be conferred—it would be very simple. Like much constructive reform, this may not be a great…09 Jul 2025HANSARDHouse of Lords (Hereditary Peers) BillI am not proposing an additional category of Members of this House; the whole point of this amendment is that those people should not be Members of this House. By the way, any…09 Jul 2025HANSARDHouse of Lords (Hereditary Peers) BillMy Lords, I am disappointed by the response from the party opposite. Is this not the great reformist party? Is this not the party that speaks about its accomplishments in changing…09 Jul 2025HANSARDHouse of Lords (Hereditary Peers) BillMy Lords, the amendment includes a separation. Do we have such a low view of the public that we think they cannot tell one person from another? In a previous debate, the…09 Jul 2025HANSARDHouse of Lords (Hereditary Peers) BillI am again startled, as always, by an intervention from those Benches. The noble Lord may remember that we had a referendum on proportional representation; the public well…09 Jul 2025HANSARDHouse of Lords (Hereditary Peers) BillThe Minister loves this word “shenanigans”; whenever I see a briefing in the newspapers, I know where it has come from. She cited one shenanigan; can she give another? The…09 Jul 2025HANSARDHouse of Lords (Hereditary Peers) BillMy Lords, I am always very touched when people call for the Front Bench. I am very happy, if I am so popular, to go over to the other side, if that is what the other side would…09 Jul 2025HANSARDHouse of Lords (Hereditary Peers) BillI am enjoying listening to the noble Earl, although I find it hard to forgive the fact that his collateral ancestors participated in the deplorable and bogus Latin Empire of…09 Jul 2025HANSARDHouse of Lords (Hereditary Peers) BillMy Lords, I am slightly disappointed that this is the second time this evening that the noble Lord, Lord Newby, has failed to put the case for election when he was talking about…09 Jul 2025HANSARDHouse of Lords (Hereditary Peers) BillWell, that is true. The elements are greatly mixed in us, as Shakespeare taught us. There is that terrible duo word of “PR” that always lurks around in any proposition that comes…09 Jul 2025HANSARDHouse of Lords (Hereditary Peers) BillMy Lords, I do not wish to still the debate, but perhaps I might, as the noble Baroness did on a wider point in the first group, intervene briefly. As a previous Leader of your…02 Jul 2025