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HANSARDCounterterrorism: Martyn’s LawNo, I do not think I can.23 Nov 2022HANSARDSolihull MurdersAs the noble Lord is well aware—I have said it many times from the Dispatch Box—police forces in this country remain operationally independent. That is right, but of course the…23 Nov 2022HANSARDSolihull MurdersI completely agree with my noble friend. It may help if I go through the list of recommendations made by the IOPC to West Midlands Police in this case. The learning…23 Nov 2022HANSARDSolihull MurdersMy noble friend is completely right. In fact, nine officers from West Midlands Police were served with misconduct notices, and the IOPC found a case to answer for five of them at…23 Nov 2022HANSARDSolihull MurdersI am not sure that is strictly true. I do not wish to comment on the precise timings, but I repeat the statement I just made. The Government are taking violence against women and…23 Nov 2022HANSARDSolihull MurdersMy Lords, I thank the noble Baroness for that question. We agree: it is incredibly important that the training reflects the gravity of these sorts of situations. We are taking…23 Nov 2022HANSARDCounterterrorism: Martyn’s LawMy noble friend makes a good point. I am, of course, happy to try to give that assurance from the Dispatch Box but, as we know, all police forces and emergency services remain…23 Nov 2022HANSARDSolihull MurdersI thank my noble friend for that question. Training includes those issues. I will quote the Minister in the other place yesterday, because she summed it up perfectly. She said:…23 Nov 2022HANSARDSolihull MurdersI begin by saying that my thoughts are with the loved ones of Khaola Saleem and Raneem Oudeh. For a mother and daughter to lose their lives in this way is truly heartbreaking. We…23 Nov 2022HANSARDCounterterrorism: Martyn’s LawFrom my personal point of view, I am not sure that it is a particularly light load. As the noble Lord says, the duty will enhance public security by introducing new requirements…23 Nov 2022HANSARDCounterterrorism: Martyn’s LawThe noble Lord makes a very sound point. He is, in effect, asking me about the scope of the proposed legislation and that work is ongoing. It would not be appropriate for me to…23 Nov 2022HANSARDCounterterrorism: Martyn’s LawAs I say, the Government are still working on this and all aspects of it will be included in the legislation and in the other things I have referenced, such as the Contest and…23 Nov 2022HANSARDPublic Order BillMy Lords, I should like to clarify my remarks about uniforms. Section 60—which is what I was talking about—applies only to officers in uniform. Section 1 powers can apply to all…22 Nov 2022HANSARDPublic Order BillAs I think I explained, we are basing these powers on Section 60.22 Nov 2022HANSARDPublic Order BillOur intention is to mirror the approach used in Section 60. I said that very clearly earlier. I have already explained its geographical extent.22 Nov 2022HANSARDPublic Order BillI am afraid I cannot.22 Nov 2022HANSARDPublic Order BillI am grateful to my noble friend for pointing out that Clause 11(6) says: “This section confers on any constable in uniform power … to stop any person and search them or anything…22 Nov 2022HANSARDPublic Order BillI apologise to the noble Lords, but I have nothing more to say on the subject. I have tried to explain how this relates to the Section 60 powers. Our intention, I say again, was…22 Nov 2022HANSARDPublic Order BillMy Lords, I thank all noble Lords for their contributions to this debate. In answer to the question from the noble Baroness, Lady Jones, about the duration of the previous debate,…22 Nov 2022HANSARDPublic Order BillIf I am incorrect I will most certainly correct my statement. That was the information that I was given. If it is incorrect in any way, I will of course come back and apologise.…22 Nov 2022