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HANSARDPolice, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Bill22 Nov 2021HANSARDPolice, Crime, Sentencing and Courts BillI am grateful to everybody for taking part in the debate and very grateful for the care with which the Minister answered the issues. I am disappointed with his response on Section…22 Nov 2021HANSARDPolice, Crime, Sentencing and Courts BillOn the points made by the noble and learned Lord, Lord Judge, about the criminal procedure rules, I agree with him. There is no need for the Secretary of State to intervene, and I…22 Nov 2021HANSARDPolice, Crime, Sentencing and Courts BillThe noble Baroness, Lady Bennett, is right. This is about sexual assault on anybody, whatever gender they are. Does the right reverend Prelate want to intervene? Oh, I am sorry;…22 Nov 2021HANSARDPolice, Crime, Sentencing and Courts BillI am afraid I did understand what the noble Lord, Lord Pannick, said. It is exactly as the noble and learned Lord, Lord Brown, has put it. The noble Lord, Lord Pannick, is right…22 Nov 2021HANSARDPolice, Crime, Sentencing and Courts BillWhat I am saying in putting forward this provision is that you want to send a clear signal that a certain sort of evidence is not admissible. In order to make it easier for people…22 Nov 2021HANSARDPolice, Crime, Sentencing and Courts BillIt would exclude such evidence; there is no doubt about that, and rightly so, because what the noble Lord is referring to is evidence where the defence says, “Well, you say this…22 Nov 2021HANSARDPolice, Crime, Sentencing and Courts BillI am very grateful to everybody who has spoken in the debate. Everybody apart from the Minister supported the principle. There were various specific suggestions as to how the…22 Nov 2021HANSARDPolice, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Bill22 Nov 2021HANSARDPolice, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Bill22 Nov 2021HANSARDPolice, Crime, Sentencing and Courts BillMy Lords, Section 28 of the Youth Justice and Criminal Evidence Act 1999 allows for the cross-examination of vulnerable witnesses and victims of adult sexual assault to take place…22 Nov 2021HANSARDPolice, Crime, Sentencing and Courts BillIn this group, according to my listing, Amendment 268 is grouped with Amendments 286, 287, 288, 289, 290 and 291.22 Nov 2021HANSARDPolice, Crime, Sentencing and Courts BillMy Lords, I should have opened those other amendments, and it is an error on my part that I did not. I am very grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Thomas of Gresford, because he has…22 Nov 2021HANSARDPolice, Crime, Sentencing and Courts BillI have no idea whether that was a yes or a no to my question. I assume the two points the noble Lord made were his two best points and the other two were no better than that, so I…22 Nov 2021HANSARDPolice, Crime, Sentencing and Courts BillI do not know where to start in relation to that intervention. I agree with the noble Lord that we need a clear delineation. We need to come forward with something. We have come…22 Nov 2021HANSARDPolice, Crime, Sentencing and Courts BillThen there might be a point where that becomes harassment. I found the speech of the noble Lord, Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames, to be terrible. He sounded like a Government…22 Nov 2021HANSARDPolice, Crime, Sentencing and Courts BillI completely take the noble Baroness’s point. The law has been very, very aware of that. There is a difference between people saying to you on the street, “I very much disagree…22 Nov 2021HANSARDPolice, Crime, Sentencing and Courts BillI am very much obliged to everybody who has taken part in this incredibly important debate. It is terribly unfortunate that this debate is happening at this particular time—I am…22 Nov 2021HANSARDPolice, Crime, Sentencing and Courts BillI accept that the age of criminal responsibility should go up. I strongly endorse what everybody is saying about the Government and, in particular, I endorse what the noble Lord,…17 Nov 2021HANSARDPolice, Crime, Sentencing and Courts BillMy amendment was the monitoring amendment and was not the heat and burden of this debate. I beg leave to withdraw the amendment.17 Nov 2021