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Member’s explanatory statement
This amendment, and others in the name of Lord Patel, seeks to ensure that UK medical graduates are prioritised above other categories of eligible applicants.
My Lords, I will speak to my amendments listed in group one. My amendments should be underpinned by the status of UK medical graduates. The competition to get into medical schools in the United Kingdom is one of the toughest of any country. The ratio of success is about 4:1, with the highest A-level grades obtained, including many at A*, but requirements are higher than that.
At completion, on average, a UK medical graduate has a loan of about £72,000, and it is important that we debate this Bill in that context. I have retabled my amendments from Committee for two reasons. The first is that the debate that we had in Committee concentrated—rightly, maybe—more on international medical graduates or graduates from UK university campuses and not so much on the UK medical school graduates, who seem to be losing out on getting training posts. We have all received many emails from UK graduates and international medical graduates. I, presumably because I had amendments in my name, seemed to receive many more from UK medical graduates. Some noble Lords may have seen a petition on the internet addressed to us, Members of the House of Lords, to pass this Bill unamended, from UK medical graduates. I gather that there are over 4,500 names attached to that petition now.
So why am I putting forward these amendments again? Most other countries—the USA, Canada, New Zealand, Australia, Singapore and the EU—prioritise their graduates for further training and even employment. Data from the GMC, NHS England, the royal colleges, the BMA and professional journals shows—I accept there is variation, including in how the data could be interpreted—that graduates from the UK find it difficult to get into core and specialist training programmes, for a variety of reasons. They include: increased output from medical schools, which will increase even more in future years; an increase in post-2019 visas for international medical graduates; and training slots have not increased, with the workforce plan increased to accommodate more doctors.
My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Patel, made some very interesting points, and I am interested in hearing my noble friend the Minister’s response to his amendments. I doubt I have had as many emails as the noble Lord, in view of his expertise in the whole area of medical training and development, particularly at postgraduate level, but it is hard not to feel sympathetic to both sides of the argument. I feel for those doctors trained overseas who thought they were on a pathway to being accepted for specialty training in this country and have had the rules of the game changed half way through.
Equally, though, as the noble Lord, Lord Patel, pointed out, we have the ridiculous situation of growing competition from overseas doctors while UK-trained doctors are finding it very hard to get specialist training. This goes to the wider question about this country’s overreliance on doctors from overseas, and the current recruitment from Africa gives me particular concern about the ethics of this process.
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We need to recognise the problem here. There is no question but that the last Government, as noble Lords will know, wasted years trying to develop a workforce plan. They eventually came up with a proposal to increase the number of medical training places, but it was not fully funded for the long term. Hence we had more medical training places, but the number of specialty training places did not keep pace with the number of medical undergraduate training places. So we have this ludicrous situation of UK-trained medical graduates funded by the state not being able to get a post for specialty training.
Like the noble Lord, Lord Patel, I have never prescribed to the view that just because you have qualified as a UK-trained medical doctor, you have an automatic right to go into specialty training. Clearly, people have to get over some bars. But for the state to fund so many additional training places and then not be able to allow people to access specialty training is clearly ludicrous. The Government had to do something. They have had to make a hard choice here and, in the end, I have to support it.
This also poses real concerns about the whole medical training programme in this country. We clearly have to align undergraduate medical training places with specialty training. The noble Lord, Lord Patel, referred to the current dispute with resident doctors, and I agree with him in relation to the issue of pay. Anyone who has met a newly trained doctor in the UK at the moment will know that they are not treated right or given the right leadership. More experienced doctors talk about the old firm system, the impact of the working time directive on training, how partnerships can be broken up because doctors are sent to different parts of their deanery when they are in a relationship and how difficult that is for them—particularly if they have children. We all hear about the lack of support for those doctors within NHS trusts and the lack of sympathy from employers for some of the pressures they are under.
As I see it, the action the Government are taking today is part of a general programme of trying to turn this around. I think the leadership of the profession has much to answer for in the way these resident junior doctors have been treated in the past. It is about time the colleges stepped up to the plate to sort some of these issues out, in conjunction with the GMC. I am not pretending this is easy; it is a difficult decision, and I feel great sympathy for some of the doctors caught in the current situation. I hope my noble friend the Minister will assure me that this is the foundation to improve our whole approach to medical training.
My Lords, I will speak in support of the amendment in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Patel; I thank him for the background research he has done on the amendment. The Minister will be aware that I work for the Dispensing Doctors’ Association. My father and brother were GPs and my uncle was a surgeon; I could not stand the sight of blood, so for the greater good I went into the legal profession instead.
The Minister and the noble Baroness, Lady Blake, sitting beside her, know of my interest in this subject, particularly in relation to junior doctors in training. As we have heard, they do not have a sufficient number of specialty job vacancies offered to them, and they have no security of tenure. They are of an age—probably in their late 20s and early 30s—when they would hope to put down roots, form relationships and start families. It is particularly key that we look after them.
I had one point of difference from the noble Lord, Lord Patel: I thought the consultants were quite well rewarded in their pay round. I hope they will support the junior doctors in their pay round, because it is very important that the profession sticks together in that regard. I agree with the noble Lord that it is very unfortunate if they feel they have to go on strike, which obviously disadvantages patients, hospitals and other staff.
When the Minister responds to the debate, can she explain to me what there is in the Bill, if we do not adopt this amendment, to cover the specific set of circumstances that the noble Lord has identified? If there is nothing in the Bill, will she come forward at Third Reading with something that covers these points? This exercises a number of us very deeply. We have to give the right message, particularly to young, male, white doctors, who may otherwise leave the profession. In general practice, a number of partners are leaving and going to work in Australia, New Zealand and Canada after they have completed their training and possibly after five or 10 years of experience. For the future of the profession at every level, we need to take this set of circumstances very seriously.
My Lords, I declare an interest as a UK graduate and as a pro-chancellor of Cardiff University, which has a very large medical school.
The ethics issues raised by the noble Lord, Lord Hunt of Kings Heath, are really important when we look at the Bill. What is our ethical role in attracting people—literally—and pulling them from places that have a terrible shortage of any medical provision whatever?
Another aspect that my noble friend Lord Patel brought out so clearly is the problem of career progression. I hope that, in summing up, the Minister will reassure us that the Bill is step one in sorting out the medical career progression for people in this country. Only this weekend, I heard of a large teaching hospital that has two consultant posts coming up, for which there were 28 appointable applicants, many of whom are already consultants. There is a real bottleneck for trainees who have gone right through their training programme and done all their exams. Broadly, there are two ways of progressing: run-through training, which provides some security, and training at a postgraduate level, where they have to reapply before they move on. The problems of geography for young people, or for parents with children who are settled, are absolutely massive.
I have been worried that the pay story hides huge problems and unhappiness, particularly in relation to the lack of teams in the way that training has been organised. I am referring not to Teams on the internet but to clinical teams where people know that they belong, where they know the person they can contact and where there is longer continuity. There has been a fault by the medical royal colleges—I hold my hand up, having been involved in some curricula in palliative medicine—in that we have overstepped different bits of experience and undervalued the importance of people coming through.
My Lords, I declare my interest as chair of King’s College London. I think that there is a welcome consensus that the UK should aim for self-sufficiency in the production of new doctors through medical school, specialty training and into the NHS. In fairness, the last Government deserve credit for having taken the decision to expand medical school undergraduate intake to put us on that path. It was also not unreasonable, as a temporary measure, to make use of selective international recruitment while those new doctors came through the system, not least as the independent Migration Advisory Committee reported at the time that, in respect of doctors,
“there is sufficient and overwhelming evidence of a UK-wide shortage”.
Given that it takes perhaps 15 years for new medical students to come into independent clinical practice, telling patients to hang on for 15 years while that intake fed through the system would not have been good, certainly for patients.
However, the issue now is that, clearly, there needs to be better prioritisation during the transitional system. We spent a lot of time in Committee discussing the pros and cons of what that transitional prioritisation might look like, but one question that has not yet been completely resolved, which would aid the House in assessing the proposals that the noble Lord, Lord Patel, has put before us, is whether we could have a clear answer from the Minister as to what the increase in the pipeline and in the availability of specialty training places is going to be for the current year and over the next three years. As she pointed out to us in correspondence during recess last week, the NHS 10-year plan that the Government published last July talked about an additional 1,000 specialty training places over three years. However, the Secretary of State for Health and Social Care put on the table the proposition of not 1,000 but 4,000 additional specialty training places over three years, of which an additional 1,000 would become available in this coming year. That is what was put on the table in the discussion with the BMA on 10 December. Given that it is only a few months until these posts are filled, presumably the Minister must know the answer to the question: exactly how many additional specialty training places will we get for the year ahead so as to reduce the prioritisation problems with whichever criteria the Bill puts forth?
My Lords, as probably the only person in this Chamber who has headed up a royal college not once but twice—the Royal College of General Practitioners—I feel the urge just to defend them and correct what is been said three times in this Chamber. The royal colleges set the standards and the curriculum; they do not oversee workforce planning, funding, or what the actual training looks like once you get into an organisation. I have to correct those speakers by saying that that is not the job of the Royal College of GPs. I do not disagree that there needs to be reform; absolutely, it is a complete mess—
My Lords, does the noble Baroness accept that the royal colleges certainly can give moral leadership? I also refer her back to the last junior doctors dispute, about 10 or 11 years ago. As she will remember, the Academy of Medical Royal Colleges, I think it was, set up a group to look at all these issues, and the outcome of that was very disappointing in terms of tangible results in improving the situation.
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In the UK doctors’ pay negotiations, one of the primary reasons that they gave was that training was an issue. A second issue was working conditions and a third was pay. I have said publicly in this Chamber before, and I repeat now, that I do not subscribe to any doctor at any time withdrawing their services from patients, for no matter what reason. I therefore do not agree with junior doctors going on strike. Despite the fact that they may have a legitimate reason to complain about their training issues, it is still no reason, as far as I am concerned, to withdraw services from patients.
UK training of doctors has three stages: foundation years 1 and 2; core training; and specialty training, including GP training. The GMC informs me that foundation year one training is available to all graduates who graduate from UK universities, although sometimes they find it difficult as the slots are not available until the last minute. Usually, that ought not to be a problem. In my case, it was two weeks before I had to start the job that I secured a position to do surgery in Penzance, having qualified in St Andrews. It was not a place that I had visited before, but I got through it.
In a 2024 report, the GMC says that, in 2023, 77% of doctors completing foundation year 2 did not or could not enter core training. A lot of them, around 13%, had decided not to, I gather, and may have gone overseas. In 2017, international medical graduates whose primary medical qualification was overseas were 47% of those registered with the GMC; in 2023, this was 68%. The 2023 GMC report said that 40% of doctors entering specialty training were international medical graduates.
It is important that we have opportunities for international medical graduates to come to train in the United Kingdom and have employment status in the NHS. But UK doctors should have a fair shot at being able to compete fairly. UK doctors comment that, after foundation year 2, entering specialty training is like falling off a cliff; it is difficult for them to get into specialist training.
NHS England, in annex 3 of its briefing on the Medical Training (Prioritisation) Bill, says that the potential impact will be an application total of 21,000 for about 10,000 posts, a ratio of 2:1. In 2025 round 1, 28,000 of the 80,000 applications were deemed appointable, according to that document. On competition, annex 4 says that, despite lower competition ratios, over 2,000 appointable UK graduates did not receive an offer in round 1 of 2025.
The expectation, therefore, is that there will be 16,000 UK graduates, a slight increase from last year, applying for core and specialty training, and 26,000 international medical graduates, also a slight increase from last year. That is 42,000, although the NHS England number is 47,000. There is always a variation in the numbers, for reasons I cannot explain. Nonetheless, the ratio is 4:1 for 10,000 slots. The estimate is that 8,000 UK graduates may be forced out of the coming rotation year as they may not have appointments.
The passage of the Bill will mean that priority groups of doctors will also apply for these training slots. I could not find a number for what effect that will have, but maybe the Minister has numbers on how many more doctors will be able to enter specialist training if the priority groups in the Bill are included. So UK graduates, with the expansion of priority groups, will have further competition.
An NHS England publication, with a foreword from Dr Powis and the Chief Medical Officer, says that
“the current bottlenecks in training do not benefit anyone; while some competition has always been a necessary part of medical training and career progression … the current ratios are making sensible career planning and assessment”
for, in my words, UK doctors
“very difficult”.
That is why I put my amendment where I have. I know the later amendments will discuss graduates from other UK campuses being eligible for the priority group, but I will refer to that later. I beg to move.
While I support these amendments from my noble friend Lord Patel, it is important to remember that some on international medical training programmes have no, or almost no, communications skills training or training in medical ethics. In fact, there are some where they have no clinical experience of any note until they pass their almost totally theoretical exams and then they have to gain all the clinical experience later. I am not passing any judgment on the quality of their medicine later on, and they may have a better scientific foundation, but we are not comparing like with like in the process.
I hope that the Minister will be able to assure us that Oriel, as an appointments and selection process, will have a much more subtle way of looking at the experience that people have and not just crude categories, because it will be important that we do not select away excellence in the name of the medical school that somebody graduated from. There is a spectrum of quality in every medical school output cohort. There are some who are superb, and there are some who, frankly, might have done better not getting into medicine in the first place—it may be a small number—but among graduates from other medical schools there will be people with superb experience and who turn out to be excellent. We see some of those in very senior positions in medicine across the UK.
The prioritisation message needs to be subtle, and it needs to look at the full employment history from graduation, including applicants’ NHS experience and the quality of their work during that. Apparently, the system can automatically calculate a lot of this, drawing on GMC data as well. There is a lot of work to be done by this system in relation to the data held by the GMC, and there is a lot of work to be done by the royal colleges.