That this House takes note of the Report from the Science and Technology Committee Long-duration energy storage: get on with it (1st Report, Session 2023–24, HL Paper 68).
My Lords, I am delighted to introduce for debate this Science and Technology Committee report on long-duration energy storage. It is my pleasure to welcome the noble Baroness, Lady Gustafsson, of Chesterton, who brings her valuable business and technology experience. I look forward to her maiden speech in response to this debate, and to working with her on issues across science, technology and investment.
I stress that my personal knowledge of this field is closely linked to my external interests in the area as a non-executive director of Ørsted, the offshore wind developer, and the FTSE-listed company and Imperial College spin-out Ceres Power, which licenses intellectual property for solid oxide fuel cells and electrolysers.
I thank all the highly engaged Science and Technology Committee members, past and present, who made leading this report challenging, thought-provoking and fun. As ever, huge credit and thanks are due to the committee staff who assisted in preparing this report: Thomas Hornigold, Matthew Manning, Sid Gurung and Cerise Burnett-Stuart, as well as our special adviser, Professor Keith Bell of the University of Strathclyde.
The inquiry ran from September 2023 to March 2024, with follow-up sessions in April and May last year. We heard from about 30 witnesses, including energy system experts, private companies, the Climate Change Committee and the Department for Energy Security and Net Zero. Some 46 pieces of written evidence were published. Our report was entitled Long-Duration Energy Storage: Get On With It. Since the report was published, we have had a general election and a change of Government, but as the new Government’s target for a largely decarbonised electricity system has been brought forward from 2035 to 2030, the imperative to get on with it is now all the more pertinent.
The climate crisis is worsening. On Monday this week, the serious scientific journal Nature described, uncharacteristically, global average temperatures in 2023 as “off the charts”—and 2024, at over 1.6 degrees above pre-industrial levels, has unexpectedly been even hotter. Nature reports that climate scientists are now considering whether this could indicate that climate change is accelerating. Add to that an increasingly unstable world and energy security is more critical than ever for the UK economy and the well-being of the population. But we do not have much time: 2030 is just five years away.
We have a Department for Energy Security and Net Zero, and long-duration energy storage must be at the heart of its thinking. It is a tool that enables us both to have energy security and to reach net zero. The Government acknowledge that the vast majority of electricity in the UK will need to come from renewables by 2030, and electricity supply and demand will grow significantly as we electrify heating, industry and transport.
My Lords, it is a pleasure to welcome the Minister to the House and I very much look forward to her speech in reply. I thank our team of committee staff for their support, especially Thomas Hornigold and Matthew Manning, not only for the way in which they helped us but for their remarkable intellectual contributions to our work, as well as that of our specialist adviser, Professor Keith Bell. I also thank our chairman for her leadership in the discussions on this subject.
The title of our report rather suggested a narrow topic; in fact, it is a very big one. In the six minutes I have, I want to talk about just one aspect in more detail: the planning for long-duration energy storage and hydrogen as an important long-duration storage technology. It is noticeable that, although both the previous Administration and the Government agree that reserve generation power is going to be necessary to complement the variability of wind and solar power, neither has taken their public statements on LDES policy much beyond 2035—indeed, in the case of the Government, beyond 2030. My problem is that, in a very important area, there seems to be a big hole in potential policy.
As our chairman made clear, the committee did not say that hydrogen should be the sole LDES technology, but we did think that, of the technologies currently available—and there are a number already in use, such as pumped hydropower—it was the technology that was best placed to play a central role in providing the power that we need in the quantities that we are likely to need it. We were explicit about the need for early commitments to a strategic reserve, given the time that it takes, as mentioned by our chairman. Seven years is, I think, not excessive, in which you have to conduct tests, develop appropriate storage conditions and create the associated infrastructure, which is not itself a trivial issue. These are all factors that apply to most potential LDES technologies.
My Lords, I am delighted to follow the noble Baroness. I join her in thanking the committee staff for their excellent work on this report and their considerable intellectual contribution to it.
I want to emphasise the urgent need for decisive action by the new Labour Government on infrastructure investment. The UK is at an economic crossroads, and the choices we make in the coming months will determine not just the pace of our recovery but our long-term economic prosperity. I am delighted to welcome my noble friend Lady Gustafsson to our Front Bench and am greatly looking forward to her maiden speech. We are fortunate to have such an accomplished technology entrepreneur as our Investment Minister. I was struck that she wrote, in an excellent LinkedIn post last Sunday, that she was suffering from
“the CEO condition which means you want everything done your way”.
It is exactly that CEO mindset that is so needed in the UK Government right now. Nowhere was that clearer than in the evidence that the Science and Technology Committee heard during our inquiry.
It has been widely accepted that, for too long, the UK has lagged behind its global peers in infrastructure development. Indecision and a reluctance to embrace risk and make investment have left us with missed opportunities and anaemic growth. The UK is becoming poorer and falling behind as a result. It is time for that to change and it will need decisive action to achieve it—not consultation and review, but action.
Nowhere is this clearer than in energy infrastructure. A thriving economy requires reliable, sustainable and affordable energy. The new Government are accelerating our transition to a decarbonised grid by 2030 using renewable solar and wind energy. That means it is essential that we also have long-duration energy storage capacity. However, progress on building such a storage facility has been hindered by hesitation and delay. Witness after witness told us how the previous Government avoided decisions and failed to heed clear advice from industry on the need for action—hence the blunt title of our report to get on with it.
My Lords, I must begin by declaring that I do not have any relevant interests to declare. Noble Lords might think this is somewhat superfluous, but I do so because the BBC’s “Today” programme, on the rare occasions it reports my remarks on climate policy, prefaces them with a health warning that “Lord Lilley has interests in the oil and gas industry”—as it did after my recent debate on the costs of climate policy. I presume it does so to discredit my views. There is one small problem. Sadly, I have no interests in any energy company. I have had no financial interest in any energy company for over a decade. I have never had any interests in any energy company which would benefit from the policies I advocate in your Lordships’ House.
In the light of my experience, I was concerned that the noble Baroness, Lady Brown, who opened this debate, was asking for trouble in not recusing herself from chairing the committee during this report. I make it absolutely clear that I am not impugning the integrity of the noble Baroness. Her views on net zero are well known. I am certain she does not hold those views because of her financial interests. On the contrary, she holds those interests because they align with and inform her beliefs.
In my case, the BBC had to invent interests that I do not have. In the noble Baroness’s case, the newspapers have already pointed out the interests she properly declared. Ceres Power Holdings, which aims to become the world’s biggest source of green hydrogen, pays her £74,000 per year. Ørsted, which stands to benefit if its surplus wind is used to generate hydrogen, pays her £40,000 per year. I have no problem with that. The House benefits from noble Lords who have active interests in business and industry—not least the very distinguished record of the noble Baroness, Lady Brown of Cambridge.
However, I wonder how the House would treat a critic of climate policy who declared that they received over £100,000 from fossil fuel companies when they chaired a report advocating policies which would benefit fossil fuel companies. All I ask is that those on both sides of the debate accept the good faith of their critics and, in particular, do not traduce the motives of those such as me who want to apply a cost-benefit analysis to these issues as being paid shills or climate deniers.
My Lords, it is a pleasure to take part in today’s debate. I join all speakers—or perhaps all—who have congratulated my friend, the noble Baroness, Lady Brown of Cambridge, on securing it and on chairing the committee with great skill and good humour. I also thank the staff for their tremendous help in producing today’s report. I am glad that the House has had an opportunity to debate it relatively soon after its publication. That may seem strange to some new Members—January 2025 is not particularly close to March 2024—but, considering our subtitle “get on with it”, I hope the new Government will react to this report and debate in that spirit. I say “new Government” because most of this inquiry was conducted under the old Government. Like all other Members, I look forward to the maiden speech of my noble friend Lady Gustafsson, who will join that relatively rare and select group of Members who make their maiden speeches as Ministers and not as Back Benchers.
I have been reflecting on the coincidence that we are having our debate on the same day as the state funeral of President Jimmy Carter. You may think there is no connection but, looking back, one of his achievements was to set up the Department of Energy in the United States in reaction to the oil crisis of the 1970s when OPEC became a well-known word throughout the world. We had set up our own Department of Energy a little earlier; it was 50 years ago this year that the first of the North Sea oil came through.
So, 50 years later, we find the energy landscape transformed and the public are now well adapted to the fact that energy policy shapes their lives. They instinctively realise that the phrase “net zero” is a further transformation which will dominate lives, even if they are not familiar with some of the details of this change. Today’s report should be seen in that context, given that many of the details may not be easily grasped by the public.
My Lords, since I am speaking after the noble Lord, Lord Lilley, and having listened to his contribution, I feel I must defend the BBC’s intention to contextualise his words. I note an article on the LSE’s website, dated October last year, headed “Misinformation in the UK’s House of Lords”, which focuses on statements made in the House by the noble Lord on the climate emergency, and speaks about
“the promotion of misinformation about climate change”.
I have no awareness of the details of the noble Lord’s financial position, but I understand the BBC’s intention to try to make sure that it contextualises the information that is being presented to listeners.
I welcome the Minister to the House and to her position, and thank the noble Baroness, Lady Brown, and the committee for an excellent report and the entirely expected comprehensive and detailed introduction to it. It is a reminder that your Lordships’ House needs more people with a science and technology background, particularly those who are able to look at technological claims critically and, where necessary, sceptically.
I begin with paragraph 12 of the report, which talks about the global energy crisis as being an object lesson in our vulnerability to fossil fuel prices. Those who question the net-zero and 2030 electricity decarbonisation targets really need to focus on that paragraph. We need homegrown or regionally linked solutions, as well as sustainable ones. I pick up the points made by the noble Baroness, Lady Neville-Jones, about the evident state of our climate emergency now, and offer my sympathy to the 130,000 people forced to evacuate Los Angeles. I urge those who doubt the need for climate action to look at those images and question why they still have doubts.
The report covers the fact that the Climate Change Committee forecast that electricity demand will increase by 50% by 2035 and double by 2050 in its balanced pathway scenario. I want to go back further than the committee report does: can we afford that increase in electricity demand, economically or environmentally? Can we make other choices about the way our society works? We think of it in terms of bulk demand for electricity, but we can also think about it in terms of balancing the grid from moment to moment. How can we reduce demand and make sure that that is part of our story, as well as saying that we have got to have the storage?
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But the supply from renewables is weather dependent. In particular, the Royal Society’s report on long-duration energy storage warned about the “Dunkelflaute”: the dark doldrums of winter, when the wind does not blow and the sun does not shine, leading to low renewable generation, sometimes for periods of days to weeks, across the UK and northern Europe. When this happens, some form of large-scale and long-duration energy storage will be needed to keep the lights on. Long-duration storage has another big advantage: rather than curtailing—that is, switching off—wind generation when there is excess supply, as we currently do, we could store that energy and use it later.
If we want our long-duration energy storage to be ready in time, we must act now. If we are to use green hydrogen as our long-duration energy store, which can be generated from renewable electricity via electrolysis, then witnesses told us that storage facilities could take seven to 10 years to build, and storage of any kind needs upfront capital investment. Recent events have made the consequences of energy supply shocks only too clear. Relying on imported fossil fuels damages not only our environment but the UK economy. The recent energy crisis caused by the Ukraine war and restriction of Russian gas supplies to Europe cost £78.2 billion between 2022 and 2024 in government support for energy bills alone. Moreover, the inflation that drove the cost of living crisis was in part driven by the high energy prices, and that damage has been felt by every single household in the UK.
This underlines the value of investment to prevent future crises, but it also demonstrated that, with current economic incentives, the existing energy market will not provide the long-duration storage that we need. We had to partially reverse the closure of the Rough gas storage facility, which had shut down because the private sector argued it was uneconomic to maintain. Energy storage capacity, like vaccines or PPE, is one of those things that Governments wish they had invested in earlier, when they find themselves paying eye-watering sums on global markets in the midst of a crisis.
Not surprisingly, the committee’s report made recommendations around strategic energy storage: a strategic reserve of energy; planning and decision-making for the energy system; targets and policies to support long-duration energy storage; hydrogen as a green energy store; and wider policies to help to minimise the need for long-duration energy storage. I shall discuss some of those key recommendations and some of the Government’s policy responses.
The committee urges the Government to commit to a strategic reserve of energy storage, to be filled when supply is plentiful and maintained to be used in a crisis. The Government have committed in their manifesto to a so-called “strategic reserve” of gas-fired power generation, and have explained that clean power by 2030 actually means 95% clean power from renewables or nuclear, with 5% gas-fired generation kicking in mainly when renewable supply is low. But this is about meeting the frequent requirements for some extra power, and while that is of course crucial it is not about the extremes that we know will happen but cannot predict—the Dunkelflaute or the global crisis.
To be clear, a strategic reserve of gas-fired generation is not the same as what we mean by an actual strategic reserve of energy. The latter could take the form of a volume of gas or hydrogen stored, as we recommended, or indeed other forms of energy storage, such as pumped hydro. The clean power action plan says that we currently need 35 gigawatts of gas generation for long-duration flexibility, but do the Government have estimates for how much gas they will need in a strategic reserve to provide the electricity that we would require in a Dunkelflaute in 2030? How much would we need beyond 2030, with more renewables and when electricity demand is even higher? If gas is to be the backstop for the 2030 target, will there be an actual strategic reserve of gas—a reserve that is government-owned and kept for those extremes? If that is not the case, how will the support mechanism ensure that the store is full when we need it, so we avoid a repeat of the energy crisis that we have just had, with us paying high wholesale prices for gas in a crisis or weather extreme?
The committee said that the Government should get started on no-regrets actions. There is enough analysis of the level of storage that would be needed in a whole range of scenarios that setting an explicit minimum target and getting started on building the strategic reserve is really a no-regrets action. Many key infrastructure decisions are urgently needed. Beyond 2030, to progress towards net zero, any remaining gas-fired plants will need to be fitted with carbon capture and storage, or CCS. New gas plants are supposed to be built to be CCS-ready, but where is the actual plan to capture and store their carbon emissions? How can they be CCS-ready when we do not yet have the networks for transporting and storing CO2 and we do not even know where those networks will be? How can companies take investment decisions to build CCS-ready plants if they do not know how or when the CO2 will be transported for storage? Key decisions are urgently needed about infrastructure—not just the transmission infrastructure for electricity but the transmission infrastructure for CO2 and for hydrogen.
We must act to avoid an increasing challenge of curtailment. The Government’s response to the committee’s report focuses on the role of gas generation to ensure that the lights do not go out. However, without large-scale, long-duration energy storage in a form other than gas, we will not be able to store all the excess energy that UK renewables can generate. So how much curtailment is acceptable and how will we avoid an increase in the frequency with which renewable generators are being paid not to generate electricity?
Is there a transition plan to wean ourselves off gas post 2030? With the assumption that we intend to deliver energy and economic resilience by replacing our reliance on imported gas with other forms of energy storage, how will long-duration energy storage compete with gas subsidised through the capacity market? The Government can argue that long-duration energy storage, for example in the form of hydrogen, cannot scale up to meet security of supply in 2030. Given what we have heard about timelines they may well be right, but if we want to finally break our dependence on fossil fuels and their volatile global prices, as well as to make use of every green joule that we can generate domestically, we need a long-term plan to wean ourselves off gas and scale up domestic large-scale, long-duration energy storage. Can the Minister tell us whether the Government have such a plan?
These are just a few of the many questions from the committee’s report and some elements of the Government’s response. They are not questions for a distant future: 2030 is five years away. That brings me to my next point, about urgency and acceleration. I do not want to give people the impression that long-duration energy storage has been totally ignored. The Government are introducing schemes to support long-duration energy storage through a cap and floor scheme, which we hope will help to finance pumped-hydro storage projects. They are also introducing hydrogen to power and hydrogen transportation and storage business models, although we understand that no subsidies will be delivered until at least the end of this year, as these models are still being developed. Some electrolytic hydrogen projects have been supported in the latest allocation round, and the National Wealth Fund can use some of its funding to support the development of hydrogen projects. We welcome these developments, but bold action is needed to catalyse private investment now. Can the Minister explain how the Government intend to accelerate these plans?
There are further challenges, including skills, public engagement and acceptability, and a range of other issues, which I know some of my committee colleagues will pick up in subsequent speeches.
The Government have set a very challenging, and laudable, target of clean power by 2030, but no one needs reminding that targets are easy to set and much harder to achieve. There are promising signs in the clean power action plan that the Government understand the range of challenges that they must grapple with and are putting policies in place to address them. But policies are not yet spades and steel and concrete, and there are still too many holes in the plan—and not enough holes in the ground—especially around a strategic reserve of energy, starting the no-regrets actions, accelerating the timescales for building long-duration energy storage, and planning to wean ourselves off gas as an emergency backstop, as well as about what happens beyond 2030 and urgency in general. I say again that 2030 is now only five years away, and that is a very short time in terms of developing energy infrastructure. We can, and must, achieve both energy security and net zero, and this requires taking long-term energy storage seriously.
We cannot afford a situation where, every few years, dark doldrum weather conditions send us scrambling to a volatile global gas marketplace, just as the gas price peaks, so that we can keep the lights on. Failure to plan and invest now to avoid this leads us precisely there. Indeed, yesterday, the GB power market came to within 580 megawatts of demand control or a blackout on what was the tightest day for generation since 2011. Incidents such as this and the recent energy crisis, and the lasting societal impact of bailouts and inflation, are a stark warning. If the Government are serious about achieving energy security and net zero—and I believe that these are vital goals—then they must set out a clear plan for how we are going to avoid this situation. That means serious investment and action to cut timelines for energy storage now. I beg to move.
I have to say that I interpret the Government’s decision to build gas plants to provide reserve power as an implicit admission that, notwithstanding international undertakings, clean sources of reserve power will not be available in sufficient quantities by 2030. I very much hope that this decision on gas, despite its considerable expense, is only transitional and that there is a serious intention to have a clean energy source solution for reserve power as soon as possible. Can the Minister confirm this when she responds?
The truth is that early decisions by the Government about reserve power are nothing short of crucial, since without the confidence inspired by a framework of relevant and coherent public policy, it is an illusion to think that the private sector will invest the necessary resources. We really must avoid a repeat of the recent experience of paying exorbitant prices for scarce energy because of a failure to provide indigenous sources, of which we are perfectly capable if only we organise ourselves.
There is a temptation to argue that it is not possible to take big decisions on reserve generation until we know more about the capabilities of different possible technologies and have a better idea of the quantum likely to be needed. These issues are real, but, far from being solved by delay, risk levels are only compounded, and in any case they do not give us the answer to the energy quantity question.
A lot depends on what we assume demand will look like. The energy modellers use different assumptions about the forecasts for future energy supply and demand, which in turn depend, in part at least, on assumptions about weather. The Climate Change Committee bases itself on a typical year of weather, accompanied by stress tests of more extreme weather patterns, whereas the Royal Society, in its study, analysed weather patterns over a longer period, which included years in which there was anomalously low power generation resulting from prolonged periods of low wind speeds—the so-called Dunkelflaute, of which we have heard. Not surprisingly, the Royal Society came up with a bigger estimate for the amount of LDES required than did the Climate Change Committee.
No one said that this was easy. However, I wonder whether anybody has much confidence these days in what constitutes typical weather. What we do know is that weather damage is getting bigger and more expensive by the year. The World Economic Forum recently estimated that, by 2050, the global cost of climate change damage will be between $1.7 trillion and $3.1 trillion a year. With such huge costs at stake, it must be right to act now to ensure that, in turbulent times, at least our power infrastructure is as robust as we can make it and capable of meeting a wide range of weather contingencies. Economic growth and economic security literally hang on it—hence the committee’s entreaty to the Government on long-term energy storage to please get on with it.
What are the advantages of hydrogen for large-scale, longer-term storage? It is available in unlimited quantities through electrolysis and is storable for long periods—that is to say, for months or even years. The UK’s geology makes this a pretty cheap proposition. The power losses involved in conversion to electricity mean that, unless cheap sources of spare energy can be found, such as energy release from a nuclear power station, hydrogen is most economically drawn on as a power source when, for whatever reason, there is a shortfall in the power production of renewables and other sources of energy. I ask the Minister to give us what guidance she can on the nature and timing of government plans for long-duration energy storage at scale.
Unfortunately, our politics, our Civil Service and our industry regulators have become increasingly risk averse over the past 15 years. Significant investment involving technological innovation is risky. Failure is a real possibility and success requires political courage, a bias for action and skill in managing that risk. In short, we need Ministers with a CEO mindset who understand that the greatest risk lies in not making a decision and who focus efforts on managing risk as implementation proceeds.
If the UK fails to act on long-duration energy storage now, we will not meet our net-zero targets, and we will subject our society and economy to blackouts and higher energy costs. By committing to decisive action now, Labour Ministers can signal that Britain is serious about restoring the nation’s fortunes. They can inspire confidence that the UK is now a place where transformative projects get built and where vision is backed by action.
I have one question for the Minister: when will this Government decide to build the strategic reserve of long-duration energy storage that they already accept will be needed to deliver energy security and net zero?
Let us get on to the report itself. It can be described as an almost priceless report in the sense that there are almost no prices attached to any of its recommendations. My only objective in this and the other debates on net-zero policy is to establish the costs and benefits of the options being presented to us. If the option proposed is cheaper than relying on fossil fuels, that is great; the sooner the better. If it is more expensive, let us compare that extra cost with the social cost of the carbon emitted before we decide to go ahead. I get very suspicious when we are told that we must, as the title of the report puts it, “get on with it”, when we do not know what “it” will cost. Dieter Helm, in his report for the previous Government on their climate policy, said that premature investment in immature technologies has wasted up to £100 billion of British taxpayers’ money. Let us not repeat that folly.
I said that the report was almost priceless. But hidden in box 3 on page 17, it quotes the Royal Society report, which claims that, if we rely on renewables and hydrogen storage, the price of electricity in 2050 will be £60 per megawatt hour, which it says is “comparable to the average” price over the decade from 2010 to 2019. Normally we are told that it is going to be cheaper, but this time it is only comparable—so presumably it will be a bit more expensive. That is rather hard to explain because the most recent auction price for offshore wind was £82 per megawatt hour, indexed against future inflation. That does not include the cost of tackling intermittency and, for example, the cost of hydrogen storage.
The same box says that hydrogen storage will add an extra cost of £100 billion. Strengthening and enlarging the grid will cost another £100 billion. This almost equals the £210 billion the Royal Society says will be required to invest directly in wind and solar generation. Given that the main cost of wind is capital investment, how can almost doubling the capital costs required for a system that is driven purely by intermittent energy and therefore has to have so much expensive back-up result in a fall in the price?
I understand that the Royal Society and the committee are relying on barely credible reductions in costs in all aspects of the process. Sadly, the committee did not consider the benefit of relying for a bit longer on natural gas as a back-up while these cost reductions materialise. The cost of energy is crucial. We cannot overstate the impact high costs have on economic performance. We should not rush ahead and get on with something—the cost of which we do not know—when for a bit longer, and with comparatively minor extra emissions of natural gas, we can avoid those problems.
As you would expect, we took a lot of very detailed evidence for the report from a wide range of experts. Even on some of the most important areas, such as the need for a strategic energy reserve, there were widely varying views on how large that reserve should be. We know that the Government’s targets are ambitious and the wish to be largely decarbonised by 2030 brings forward the date, so it is all the more important that a committee such as ours takes on an issue such as this and gives it the prominence it deserves. Let us face it, LDES as an acronym does not exactly trip off the tongue, but it represents an important and vital ingredient of our future energy policy. The net-zero policy to which we are committed will mean that we use electricity far more than we do now, and it will be derived from renewable sources. We will specifically use wind and solar, both of which we have a great capacity for.
The residents of a place called Odiham in Hampshire, as noble Lords will recall, last autumn went for an entire week without any recorded sunshine or wind. There is a special word to describe this—I think the chair has already beaten me to get it into Hansard—but we have got to deal with a world in which the sun does not shine and the wind does not blow, otherwise we run the risk of power cuts. The chair alluded to how close we came relatively recently to what many in the world would call “load-shedding”, which is something a first-world country such as ours should not countenance.
In the short time available, I have a few questions for the Minister. First, what is the Government’s current assessment of the scale of the need for LDES and how will it fit into the new energy system? Secondly, what progress is being made in setting up the National Energy System Operator and what effect will future reforms to the planning system have on implementing decisions once ministerial approval is given?
Thirdly, what plans do the Government have for a strategic energy reserve? Will that reserve be gas or might it be an alternative such as hydrogen? Fourthly, if it will involve green hydrogen as a long-duration energy store, how will this fit into the Government’s wider hydrogen policy? What plans do they have for a domestic electrolyser industry, not to mention greater public consultation on its potential use?
Fifthly, what progress is being made towards a strategic spatial energy plan? Sixthly, what plans do the Government have for speeding up the ability of renewable energy sources to connect to the national grid? When we look back on this in years to come, it will be a scandal that it took so long. Seventhly, when the grid connection queue has finally been shortened, what steps do they plan to take to enable electricity to be transferred across the country—even across beautiful parts of this country—by the building of new pylon networks? Can this be achieved without timely reform of planning laws?
Eighthly, is there anything the Government can tell the House about plans to minimise the need for long-duration energy storage, including the use of interconnectors—always bearing in mind that, in today’s dangerous world, as undersea cables are severed, so could undersea connectors? Ninthly, what government support is being given to R&D into other LDES technologies, such as compressed air and battery chemistries? Tenthly, can the Government explain how LDES can and will fit into their longer-term net-zero objectives? Will gas-fired plants be used for LDES? If so, will they be fitted with CCUS?
In conclusion, when a major committee such as the Science and Technology Committee tells the Government that they should get on with it, I want the Minister to know that it is meant in the kindest, friendliest way—but it is meant.
Paragraph 129 of the report says that long and medium-duration storage is critical,
“but it will not always be the cheapest option”.
The committee stresses that energy efficiency, which I want to focus on, is often a cheaper option. The cleanest, greenest energy you can possibly have is the energy that you do not need to use. I fear that sometimes, when we reach out for technological solutions and think about growth as a mantra or religion, we fail to think about the fact that the cheapest, cleanest, best possible energy is the energy that we do not need to use.
In that context, your Lordships frequently hear expressions of excitement from the Government about the possibilities of so-called AI or large language learning models. One study suggests that a generative AI system uses around 33 times more energy than a machine running task-specific software—33 times more energy to get the same outcome. In 2022, the world’s data centres gobbled up 460 terawatt hours of electricity and the International Energy Agency expects this to double in just four years. Data centres could be using 1,000 terawatt hours annually by 2026.
It is interesting that Dublin, for example, has just put a moratorium on the construction of new data centres. Nearly one-fifth of Ireland’s electricity is currently used by data centres, and that figure is expected to grow significantly. Ireland is starting to ask the question: can and—importantly—do we want to do this?
Finally, perhaps we could do with a little bit of light relief. I suspect that a new word for your Lordships’ House, at least used in this context, is so-called AI slop, which is junk, nonsense material being created at enormous scale by AI-generating machines. There has apparently been a huge explosion of images of Jesus made out of shrimps. Do we want to create energy storage so that AI systems can do that?