My Lords, we must never lose sight of why we are here to debate these regulations. The infected blood scandal was a catastrophic failure of the state. It is a tragedy measured not only by the pain and suffering of its victims but by the decades it took for the suffering to be recognised. The victims in the scandal have suffered unspeakably, and the former Prime Minister, when leader of the Opposition, acknowledged the suffering caused by continued systemic failure. Our new Prime Minister has long supported the infected blood community and its fight for justice. I want to reassure noble Lords that the Government will not deprioritise this important work.
Before I move on to the substance of the SI, I will take a moment to reflect on the people behind the statistics, specifically the families of the infected, who have had not just to watch as their loved ones suffered in front of them but to fight for justice, in some cases for decades, putting their lives on hold and changing them irreversibly. We must recognise the sacrifice of the families, carers and campaigners.
When I first spoke at the Dispatch Box on the infected blood scandal in March last year, it was to discuss the second set of compensation regulations. I updated your Lordships’ House on the progress IBCA had made, specifically that 255 people had been asked to start their compensation claim, and £44 million-worth of offers had been made. A substantial amount of progress has been made since then. Indeed, as of 14 July, 5,404 people have been asked to start their claim, with over £2.7 billion of offers made. That is not to say that our work is done, which is why we are here today.
The regulations at hand are a direct product of what we heard in the consultation. I am sure noble Lords will appreciate that there is a diversity of views within the community, and the Government have done what they can to consolidate these views to ensure that the changes we are making reflect the thoughts and feelings of the majority. I will briefly summarise those changes.
At end insert “but that this House regrets that the draft Regulations do not address the concerns expressed by many victims about the changes made from the original proposals in Sir Brian Langstaff’s Inquiry Report and Additional Report on Compensation; further regrets the slow progress they make in addressing the cases of affected victims, while welcoming the progress in compensation for the living infected victims; expresses concerns about the arrangements for estates of deceased victims; and notes the difficulties in implementation they will pose for the Infected Blood Compensation Authority, which may lead to further delays in providing compensation.”
I thank the Minister for her introduction to the SI and for the recent meeting. I will ask her many questions. If she cannot answer them all, I will look forward to hearing from her in due course. I have tabled this amendment because of very serious disquiet from infected and affected victims about changes to the scheme, including some in this SI, and real worries about the new processes. I thank the individuals and infected blood organisations for contacting me and echo the points made by the Minister about the seriousness of what has happened to them and their lives and the loved ones they have lost.
Unfortunately, the changes have destroyed what remained of the trust of many of the victims and have had a deeply damaging consequence on people already victimised for decades by our NHS and Governments past. There was real hope after Sir Brian Langstaff’s full inquiry report in May 2024 and his additional report last July stating that government and IBCA needed to review their processes to get them right and follow his recommendations.
IBCA says that scheme managers attend a three-week training course. Astonishingly, there are no assessors or reviewers who have clinical experience in this specific area. Victims tell me that assessors just do not understand what had happened medically to victims, causing immense distress. Both the Haemophilia Society and the Hepatitis C Trust say that the arbitrary and indefensible inequities resulting from this lack of expertise must be addressed. For example, the consequences of using interferon as an early treatment for hepatitis C are similar to having severe chemotherapy, which has caused, on top of the infection, very long-term life-changing damage to victims. The new level 2B uplift of two years’ financial loss award just does not recognise the lasting medical legacy from interferon treatment.
Will the Government agree that those treated with interferon should receive a permanent uplift to their financial loss and care awards? Sir Brian Langstaff said clearly in his inquiry report that assessors must not ask for inappropriate evidence. IBCA assessors keep asking clinicians in haemophilia centres for the exact date of infection, but the inquiry report set out in detail how many health records were destroyed many years ago. Worse, these IBCA requests then result in long pauses to the processing of claims as well as frustration from clinicians and, frankly, despair from victims.
My Lords, time is short not just for speakers in this debate, but increasingly so for the remaining victims of infected blood to get justice after one of the biggest ever failures by the British state on record. Curiously enough, all infected blood records are missing in Northern Ireland, for unknown reasons; therefore, I am speaking simply for England, Scotland and Wales. But I strongly agree with all that my noble friend Lady Brinton has just said in speaking to her regret amendment. For sure, there is an ongoing process to recognise and compensate, but it has been fraught with a lot of confusion, muddle and terrible delays, and still today, no sense of urgency that I can see.
These 10 regulations are in fact just one more skirmish with reality, causing alarm indeed in the way they have been mooted. For example, one correspondent from the infected blood community world, who I do not know, wrote to me out of the blue, thinking that this set of regulations gives the last chance to do anything at all. This is not so, if Ministers decide, for they can change policy and can change pace at will, but I have no sense that this is happening. Indeed, the obfuscation continues. The Minister kindly provided me with a Written Answer earlier this month, telling me that there have been 19,565 claimants to the Infected Blood Compensation Authority, of whom only 3,336 have been paid. That is clear and straightforward, and I thank her for that.
On the other hand, in a parallel Question—again, in this month—about the numbers who have died before settlements, amid quite a chunk of verbiage there was no answer at all about those who have died before settlement has happened. I think we should have this information and it is wrong that we do not. I look to the Minister perhaps to revisit my Question when she has a moment, to see what can be done.
This whole issue has been criss-crossing ministerial desks for decades. It was certainly doing that when the new Prime Minister was himself Secretary of State for Health, which was quite a long time ago. I trust that his door at No. 10 will always be open to the afflicted, and I hope that, while he is Prime Minister, the shutters are never going to come down on those who are afflicted wishing to get access. I warmly welcome the appointment of the new Secretary of State for Health. She is—I say this with respect—a noted Whitehall warrior and has real depth of experience, over decades in ministerial office. I hope she will now get a real grip, as a matter of urgency, on this faltering process, cutting through the administrative thickets before many more die as continuing mortality takes its toll.
My Lords, we must thank the noble Baroness, Lady Brinton, for her introduction to this amendment. Like others, I have had some desperately sad correspondence from widows whose husbands died relatively early after infection. Infection denied them children, some suffered serious discrimination within their family, some find that their husbands medical records are missing, and probate rules have created barriers. All those affected are so deeply wounded by the lasting emotional, financial and practical consequences of the scandal, retraumatised over decades of seeking accountability. As one widow wrote,
“no amount of money will bring back our loved ones, and there is no way you can put a figure on what we have had to go through”.
There are ongoing problems, and we must follow Sir Brian’s lead. Two years ago, though, not a penny was going out the door in recognition of the wrongs perpetrated. The delays until now are shameful. I thank the Minister and the civil servants for meeting me. The civil servants working on this are being as scrupulous as they can. The compensation coming from the Treasury, in effect from taxpayers, recognises as a nation the extent of the scandal: the NHS purchased contaminated products, and some professionals abused the trust of people in services meant to protect and respect life. We have gone from nowhere to where we are today, thanks only to those wronged speaking out, time and again, to a system that seemed deaf to their plight.
My noble friend Lady Campbell of Surbiton cannot be here today. Through her own experiences, she has taught me and others so much. I am grateful to her for sharing her thoughts on this amendment and on the need for recognising those affected, as well as those infected. Differing eligibility criteria and inconsistencies in estimating financial loss and bereavement have led to inequalities and unintended consequences. Those affected fear claims over their deceased infected relative being increasingly delayed.
My Lords, it is a great pleasure to follow the noble Baroness, Lady Finlay, and all the speakers in this debate thus far. I continue where she left off, taking a moment to look at the big picture.
We have a huge problem with trust in politics and government in our society at the moment. Sometimes, attached to that is the idea that, in the past, there was some golden age when everything worked. This tragedy, this awful behaviour by the state, is a demonstration that that is not the case. We have huge problems of dysfunction in the way our state has worked over long periods of time. As the noble Baroness, Lady Finlay, said, addressing this fairly and justly, with compassion and care, could start to repair the relationship between the state and people.
I note the powerful speech of the noble Baroness, Lady Brinton, who, like all the speakers before her, has been very much a leader in this area. I come along modestly and add the Green Party’s support when I can. I thank the Minister for addressing the start of this debate with appropriate seriousness and recognising the sacrifice of families, campaigners and those who have been affected, who have demonstrated that campaigning works, in that we at least have a compensation scheme. But their experience also demonstrates that you cannot say, “We’ve won our fight, now we can get on with our lives”. People have to keep fighting and fighting and fighting. That is an unreasonable burden to put on people who have already fought for so much.
My Lords, my mum Sheila Davies died from liver cancer in 2017 after a long battle with hepatitis. She did not drink, she never smoked, and I think she went out of the country a grand total of three times. In fact, she rarely ventured outside Plymouth, where she worked in the MoD. She worked all her life, paid her taxes, bought up my twin brothers as a single parent, and did not moan. In fact, she was the most stoic, brave, and principled woman I know.
In the late 1970s, she had a gall bladder operation in Devonport Hospital, Plymouth. The gallstones they removed filled a jam jar. I remember her shaking them at me at the kitchen table. I was 15. She was on warfarin at the time and therefore needed a blood transfusion, which was standard practice for a large-wound operation, and she thought nothing of it. As with so many hepatitis cases, it took 20 years before the symptoms started to really impact her life. From that moment, she was on a cocktail of tablets, drugs and endless tests, yet she never stopped working through colds, flu and infections. She never explained to us children what she had, so she dealt with that fear all alone. I rang her best friend at the weekend to check, and my mum had never told her either, such was the shame and stigma that came with the diagnosis of hepatitis and HIV, which meant that so many people were shunned and abandoned. Whole families of haemophiliacs died while communities ostracised them. In many cases, it was women who picked up the burden of care.
Mum had a consultant who seemed to get things under control, but when he went back to Australia, things went downhill very fast. It was only at the very end when my brother had to take my mum to appointments that the truth started to come out. I then took her to Harley Street after she decided to pay herself to see a specialist. I sat there while he told her that, had she been referred six months earlier, he could have done something to help her, but, apart from experimental drugs that would put her in bed for six months and prolong her life just a little, there was nothing he could now do. It was too late. It felt like the third time that our NHS had let her down. I talked her out of spending her last three months in bed as she was a fiercely independent woman, and three months later she died. We got her back home to the house that she lived in for 50 years and she was surrounded by her family.
My Lords, it is an honour to follow the noble Baroness. When one hears stories directly like that, they have an impact. I am so sorry for the noble Baroness’s loss. As ever, I have to declare my interest: one of my sister’s twin boys—my nephew, who was a haemophiliac—was infected with hepatitis C and died at the age of 35, leaving behind a 10 month-old baby daughter. I more than support the amendment in the name of the noble Baroness, Lady Brinton. Of course, although progress has been made, the implementation of the compensation scheme is still causing unnecessary and huge distress to too many victims and their families. Despite those of us who fight in this Chamber and raise the issues we are hearing about today about the affected and the infected, nothing fundamentally changes on those issues.
I begin by acknowledging this Minister’s personal commitment to this issue, which is appreciated. I know that much work has gone into establishing the compensation scheme, but the measure of success is not the creation of the scheme but the experience of those going through it. I want to raise three practical concerns today.
The first is the burden of evidence. Time and again, I hear from victims and bereaved families who are being asked to provide information that they have already supplied many times over many years to government departments, previous support schemes and the infected blood inquiry itself. Others are being asked for records dating back 40 or 50 years, which have long since disappeared. Surely, the starting point should be different. Where the state already holds the information or has previously accepted the facts, it should rely on its own records. After decades of fighting simply to be believed, people should not now feel that they are being asked to prove their case all over again.
My second concern is that these problems are not new. Representative organisations and affected individuals have been raising them consistently. The Government know about them; IBCA knows about them. We politicians have raised them often enough. Yet the same concerns continue to be raised over and over again, to no avail. The Government should and must expect the authority to learn quickly from claimants’ experience and to adapt its processes as problems emerge. If the same complaints continue to be heard month after month, something is plainly not working as it should.
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Regulation 3 introduces a new level 2B award, as recommended by the inquiry, so that people who suffered from the side effects of interferon treatment receive an additional injury award, as well as further financial loss and care compensation, to reflect the impact it had on their lives. Following the consultation, the regulations also make sure that people who received more than one round of interferon will be properly compensated for each of those rounds of treatment. To be clear, the introduction of the level 2B banding is in line with the inquiry’s recommendations, which set out that the choice between creating this new banding or uplifting those who receive treatment with interferon to level 3 was for the Minister for the Cabinet Office to take.
Regulation 4 removes the 25% deduction applied to past care compensation for people who choose to receive support scheme payments for life. Following the consultation, the regulations make sure that people receive past financial loss compensation based on whichever of the two ways to calculate this award is most financially beneficial to them. The Government have chosen to do this to recognise that selecting only one way of calculating this award would mean that some people’s expected awards may reduce in size. By running both calculations and giving each person whichever is the highest amount in their personal circumstances, we ensure that everyone gets fair compensation for this award.
Regulation 5 makes provision for a 50% uplift to the core autonomy award for those infected under the age of 18, calculated based on the highest severity of infection they experienced during childhood.
Regulation 6 amends the eligibility criteria for the unethical research award so that everyone treated for a bleeding disorder before 1986 will receive an unethical research award. The regulations also introduce a new unethical research award for children. This means that people who were treated for a bleeding disorder in childhood will receive an uplifted award. The regulations also increase the amount of compensation that all eligible people receive for this award. It is one of the most shocking aspects of the scandal, and I am sure that noble Lords will agree that no amount of money could ever make up for the heinous experimentation that happened, particularly when that took place on children. We have listened to the feedback received through the consultation and, as a result, people who attended Treloar’s will receive £60,000, rather than the £25,000 proposed in the consultation. Other children will receive £45,000. Those treated in adulthood will receive £30,000, tripling the amount they currently receive.
Regulation 7 ensures that everyone who was eligible for the special category mechanism or an equivalent payment through the infected blood support schemes receives additional financial loss and care compensation. Following the consultation, these regulations ensure that everyone in this position has the award backdated to 2017, when the SCM award was first introduced, regardless of when they were assessed. Living people who were not assessed as eligible for SCM can now apply for it through IBCA, including those who were previously unsuccessful in their application to the IBSS.
Regulations 8 and 9 make changes to the exceptional loss award under the supplementary route. These regulations introduce a compensation uplift of £60,000 for people who had entered or had an offer to enter a career that generally would have paid 10% more than the gross national median average earnings as determined in 2024 at any point prior to retirement age but were unable to progress in this career due to their infection. This award will be made on top of their core route financial loss award.
We also heard in the consultation that some people are concerned that they will not be able to access the exceptional loss award if they do not have historic payslips. The Government will work with IBCA to ensure that all relevant evidence can be used to help someone show that they are eligible for the exceptional loss award so that that is not a barrier. The Government have been clear that we want the scheme to be as sympathetic and unburdensome to applicants as possible.
Regulation 10 introduces a 50% uplift to the core injury award for some affected people. This includes eligible bereaved partners, and children and siblings who themselves have been affected under 18 years of age. Eligible bereaved parents will also be able to receive this award in the tragic circumstances where their child passed away while under the age of 18. I assure noble Lords that, as with the rest of these regulations, the decisions we made on this award directly reflect what we heard through the consultation about the specific impacts of the scandal on children.
Regulations 11 and 12 are unrelated to the public consultation and relate to the transfer of responsibility for making support scheme payments from the infected blood support scheme to IBCA. To maintain consistency with the support schemes, the value of someone’s support scheme payments is uprated every year in April at the rate of CPI in the previous September. These regulations therefore account for the next CPI uplift taking place in April 2027, after IBCA takes responsibility for making support scheme payments for the infected blood support schemes.
The changes that I have set out are the result of this Government accounting for the variety of views that we heard in the consultation and balancing this with a tariff-based scheme that can be delivered as quickly as possible. Today’s debate, while focused on the regulations, is not about the Government’s work on this matter. It is about those people who have lived through some of the most tragic circumstances and doing what we can to bring them justice. I beg to move.
This burden of exact proof should be relaxed, as Sir Brian said. It is clear, over the decades of illness and treatment, roughly when people were infected. Arguments about an exact date in the decade of infection do not change the subsequent decades of ill health, loss of employment, infection of family and consequences for affected victims. Will the Government stop this practice, take Sir Brian’s common-sense approach to the burden of proof and relax exact evidence requirements for infected and affected families once it is clear roughly when people were infected? Will the Government address this and other operational problems as a priority?
Concerns continue about the unethical research awards. I am glad that the Minister mentioned this. It is not clear exactly how these awards were calculated. Please can this be explained clearly and the level reviewed, reflecting the seriousness of the treatment? To be absolutely clear, this was the NHS and the state using children as guinea pigs without their or their family’s knowledge or understanding of the risks. It is still truly shocking and not just a minor dereliction of duty.
The IBCA technical experts group’s discussions about how to handle suicide or attempted suicide are appalling. It beggars belief for officials to suggest that people might wish to commit suicide in order to secure some further compensation for their family. It demonstrates a complete lack of understanding of what the families have been through, long before the scheme was created more recently. Their view—that is, the technical experts’ view—contradicts the Government’s own view that the infected blood scandal represents a system failure with
“a profound and lasting impact on the lives of thousands”.
No wonder families are distressed.
Compensation for carers is also causing real concern. Many affected people provided unpaid care for family members, including children, suffering financial disadvantage and missing work opportunities. The current scheme does not recognise this financial and personal loss, so will the Government review this injustice?
The Government say that the care award for deceased estates recognises care received by the infected person, but this award is automatically passed on only through the law of succession. Therefore, family members who may have provided full-time care for decades, but who are not in that direct line of succession—for example, a parent or a previous wife—are excluded from the estate. That is a denial of everything that family carer did and lost. How is this fair? Also, the financial loss payments for eligible dependants of the deceased infected people do not address the substantial difference in overall compensation between an infected person who survives to claim, and one who dies just before compensation is paid. The financial loss was the same; the difference is catastrophic.
Can the Minister say why the infected injury award increases according to the severity of the infection, but the tariff ends before the most serious outcome of all, the death of the infected person, and why there is no recognition of this ultimate harm? The Treasury uses its compensation “death discount” if there was any physical separation of the couple before death. One caregiving widow left the marital home because she feared her husband’s behaviour—a side-effect of his infection—with their children. The Treasury’s actions seem unforgivably hard.
These are just a few of the concerns of the infected blood community, and I hope the Government will review these issues urgently. I beg to move.
The proposed death recognition award should be amended to recognise those who experienced the bereavement, rather than automatically becoming part of an estate, as probate barriers can stop the person most affected being recognised in the compensation. Deceased infected claims progress more slowly than many expected, prolonging uncertainty for bereaved families. Families who provided years of unpaid care feel that their contribution has gone inadequately recognised. Because financial loss awards differ depending on dates and circumstances, many families believe this creates unjust disparities in compensation that they cannot understand.
Thousands of families live with the consequences of the infected blood scandal. While no compensation can replace a loved one, it can acknowledge the profound loss suffered and help restore confidence that the state is committed to delivering justice fairly. There is an ancient saying: “Trust arrives on foot and leaves on horseback”. This compensation scheme and the Hillsborough law might be the foot soldiers of trust in this nation, if, and only if, we have candour and get the subsequent actions right.
I want to pick up a couple of specific points, starting with the important contribution from the noble Lord, Lord Patten. It is considered bad form in your Lordships’ House to repeat, but I am going to repeat his demand: the Government surely have to be able to find figures to show how many people have died waiting for compensation. The figures are awful—around 3,000 people have been compensated out of 19,000 applications. We know that there must have been a lot of deaths. It cannot be beyond the capacity of the Government to give us that figure and demonstrate to the public that everyone can see clearly what is happening. This is about basic transparency.
There are many points to be made about what is wrong with what is happening now, and many of them have already been made. I pick two issues that the public would be astonished by if they were widely known. One is the fact that compensation payments are being eroded by inflation. The longer the state drags its feet, the less effective the money that people are getting to be able to get on with their lives. That is inappropriate and clearly wrong. The other point is that victims who have died must be treated in the same way as living victims. Bereaved families see the money immediately reduced as soon as someone dies, but they have died because of the terrible actions of the state. That cannot be considered in any way acceptable.
It is easy to get angry about this—your Lordships already have and will continue to do so. We have a new Government and a chance for a new start. Let us hope that this Government approach this with compassion, care and a realistic understanding that we have to restore trust in the state and in government. Indeed, in this current age of shocks, with so many health and other threats approaching, we need to ensure that there is trust in the medical profession. This compensation scheme can go some way to restoring that.
My story is not unique. There are many families with worse ones. Mum died in February 2017, just months before the first real transparency on contaminated blood. We found out that blood was obtained not only from American prisons but from prisons in the UK, such as Dartmoor, which might well have been the prison that supplied the blood to hospitals in Plymouth. It had not been screened. Worse, it was batched, long after many countries had changed their practice. Some hospitals and trusts, as we have heard, and I know, deliberately destroyed records.
My mum died before she could talk about what she had endured. She was terrified that it might come out that she had hep C because I was in the public eye. Getting records together has been nigh on impossible. I have tried, with my influence, which is better than most, and still we have had little help. There are many poor families out there who are really struggling with just getting the information.
Last weekend, I spent time online with people who have lived this nightmare. I hope the Minister, who I know genuinely wants to help, will find some of their expertise useful. They mentioned awareness of and equality for hep B sufferers and the importance of understanding how hep B can be a trigger, especially for haemophiliacs who have multi-conditions. Claim managers were suggested who can target claim types, so they can build up expertise and knowledge in specialist areas. They call for help with record gathering, an emphasis on genuine testimony, speeding up compensation, especially for those who are dying, working closely with charities and support groups which have been dealing with victims for decades, and support and recognition for the many women who were given contaminated blood during childbirth and were told not to have any more children.
This was beyond a terrible, avoidable mistake, and there was the even bigger disgrace of the cover-up. A minimum of 30,000 people were affected, and there were 3,000 premature deaths. Hundreds of thousands of families affected by this contaminated blood scandal have been ignored for so many years. All Governments have to own their part and all Members of this House and the other place need to come together to establish justice and transparency for all victims. We must take lessons from what has gone on in the past and do no harm going forward.
My third point is about certainty. Many people still do not know when they are likely to be invited into the scheme, how long the process is expected to take or what stage their claim has reached. After decades of uncertainty, they deserve clear communication about what they can expect and when they can expect it.
I ask the Minister three questions. First, what further steps will the Government take to ensure that claimants are not repeatedly asked for information that the Government and other organisations already possess? Secondly, what assurances and examples can the Minister give the House that the Government are holding IBCA to account for resolving these recurring problems more quickly, and what punishment do they mete out to IBCA when it cannot answer? Thirdly, what further improvements will be made to communications with claimants, so they have a clear understanding of where they are in the process and when they can realistically expect decisions?
The hard decisions have already been taken. The inquiry established the truth. Parliament accepted the need for compensation. The money is there. The remaining task is to ensure that delivery matches the promises that have been made. That is what victims and families—those who have waited so long for justice—now deserve.